Jon Presco
2013-02-16 23:03:18 UTC
I just found the Abbey Bellevaux where the Lords of Rougemont, and the Bishops of Besançon are buried. The Rougemonts were Knights Templar and owners of the Shroud of Turin as were the Lords of La Roche. Pons La Roche was the founder of Bellevaux where very possibley my Rougemont ancestors are buried. Pons is close kindred of the De Bar and Habsburg family. Why would the Habsburg keep their connection to the Knights Templar and Shroud of Turin a secret? The Habsburgs were `defenders of the Catholic faith'.
I am going to make a pilgrimage to this Abbey Bellevaux and own the end of my book. I am looking for backers of my expedition. Who would like to go with?
The Lords of Rougemont and Ferrette also owned Florimont (mountain of flowers) castle where modern day (1785) Knights of Ferrette gathered, and a Raja M built a house dedicated to the troubadours. (1892) Are we looking at the first pseudo-history of the Templars?
Thibaud Rougemont was a co-fpunder of the Priory Marast.
Jon Presco
Copyright 2012
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_seigneurs_de_Rougemont
"This James (or Jacob, for these names were once interchangeable) was the son of Hans Ulrich Rosemond, born 1623, a weaver; who was a son of Hans, a weaver, born 1581; who was a son of Fred Rosemond, born 1552, a weaver, member of town council and a local captain; who was the son of another Hans whose date of birth is not known, but he too, was a weaver and became a citizen of Basle in 1534. His father was Erhart de Rougemont who bought in 1495 ¡°the house called Rebleuten-Zunft in Basle in the Freistrasse"
Friedrich, Seigneur de Rougemont (Rotenberg)1
M, d. after 1267
Friedrich, Seigneur de Rougemont (Rotenberg)|d. a Ulrich II, Duke of Alsace, Lord Florimont, Graf von PfirtkFather Ulrich II, Duke of Alsace, Lord Florimont, Graf von Pfirt1 d. 1 Feb 1275
Mother (Miss) de Belvoir1 d. b 1256
Friedrich, Seigneur de Rougemont (Rotenberg) married Gille de Vienne, daughter of Hugues, Sire de Pagny, Comte de Vienne.1 Friedrich, Seigneur de Rougemont (Rotenberg) died after 1267.1
Family Gille de Vienne
Citations
1.[S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. I/2, Tafel 226.
Gille de Vienne1
The Florimont castral site dominates the village (old town in the medieval sense), at the confluence of the Coeuvatte and the Vendeline. The location is an authentic military site which, according to tradition, would have already been occupied by a garrison to Gallo-Roman times.
The castle is first mentioned in a deed signed by Ulrich II of Ferrette to Blumenberg (Fisher) in 1258. His son Louis also became Lord of the place. February 9, 1309, the lordship including the castle is called into Oblate fief to the Bishop of Basel Otto de grandson by count Thibaut, brother of Louis de Ferrette-Florimont. The Castle has a cited Chapel in 1309 (see Alsatia munita, Bernhard Metz).
Bellevaux, Bella Vallis was founded by Pons i. rock and Etienne de Traves in 1119, he is the first daughter of theAbbey of Morimond and also was the first Cistercian Abbey in Franche-Comté[1].
The birth of the Abbey of Bellevaux coincides with the appearance of the line of likely from La Roche sur Ognon Lords of Lords Scey and Traves. a land area it is made with the help of the Lords of Cirey and Chambornay[1].
The Church was consecrated in 1143 and dedicated to our Lady[1].
The Abbey will depend on four barns in 1139, eight in 1178 (Cirey, Magny, Valleroy, Baslieres, Trevey, Argirey, Champoux and Braillans the last two for a clearing nearby)[1].
Although much lower in importance than the neighboringAbbey of Cherlieu, Bellevaux participates in the swarming of the abbeys as a result of his mother Morimond : from 1124, it contributes to the creation of theLucelle Abbey in the diocese of Basel and then to the diocese of Lausanne, to Montheron (c. 1130)[1]. In its close proximity, it creates Theuley institutions (1130), Rosières (1132) and La Charité (1133). then, the Lords of La Roche became Lords in Attica as a result of the Fourth Crusade, theAbbey of Daphni (sometimes referred to as "Laurum Abbey" in certain acts)[2], in present Greece[1].
At the end of the XIIe century, the Abbey has the chance to get the very important relics: those of Pierre de Tarentaise. Former monk became Archbishop of Tarentaise (1141-1174), he traverses the Burgundy to get to the Pope's support in its fight against the emperor when the death surprised him. Despite the wishes of the canons of Tarentaise, it is buried at Bellevaux, and reputation of holy man and miracle worker, was canonized in 1191[1].
Bellevaux therefore became an important centre of pilgrimage of many nobles in the area while (first among which the Lords of La Roche) and even three archbishops of Besançon (Gérard, Nicolas and Odo de Rougemont are buried in the Abbey Church[1]. After the French Revolution, the relics are transferred to the Church of Cirey.
From thee century XIV, barns are leased and the Abbey invests in the Saltworks of Lons-le-Saunier and Salins. They are building a mansion in Besançon. Workforce down to about 20 monks (18 in 1352 during the visit of the Abbot of Morimond)[1].
The situation is more difficult: the Abbey had six monks in 1497 and it comes to expose the relics of Pierre de Tarentaise exceptionally to attract the alms to repair the Church[1].
The order itself little by little: Jean Rolin, son of the Chancellor Rolin became Abbot in 1455. It is definitive from 1551 and the abbacy of Pierre D'andelot[1].
Fisher: the home of 1892, troubadour style whose principaleest Tower flanked by a stair turret.The lordship married the same story as that of the County of Ferrette and will become "Austrian" in 1324 following the marriage of Jeanne de Ferrette with Albert II of Habsburg. Many noble families rent places to the Austrians. The zum Stein, for example, work at the castle in 1467. In the following decades, the existence of the Chapel, dedicated to saint George, is confirmed.
The Castle, also committed in the Reinach and the Fugger, has work in 1476-1486. In 1577, a fire causes serious damage to the building that once repaired, suffered the outrages soldiers, in 1635 (thirty years war).
After the arrival of the French in the region, the seigneury was handed over to a certain family Baker until 1785, then Ferrette Knights (that have nothing to do with the advantage family of the same name). The strongly ruined castle was not rebuilt.
In its place is built by Raja M. in 1892 a pseudo-medievale home of troubadour style whose Tower main, still visible and flanked by a spiral staircase turret, could occupy the location of the primitive keep. The top of this tower, itself now greatly ruined, was equipped with originally a false crenellated parapet and fake battlements.
Pons de la ROCHE-SUR-OGNON (1080? ?)
/ Eudes (Othon) de la ROCHE-SUR-OGNON (1110? 1161?)
/ \ Sibylle de SCEY
- Pons I de la ROCHE-SUR-OGNON
\ / Richwin (Richuris) (Count) de SCARPONE + ====> [ 255 ,c,ptm,&]
| / Louis II (Sn.) de MONTBELIARD (1020? 1073?)
| / \ Hildegarde (de NORDGAU) von EGISHEIM + ====> [ 255 ,gc,tm,&]
| / Thierry II (Dietrich I) of BAR
| / \ Sophia of BAR (de l' HAUTE LORRAINE) + ==&=> [ 255 ,GC,tm,&]
| / Thierry III (II) de MONTBELLIARD (1085? 1154?)
| | \ / William II (I) `the Great' of BURGUNDY + ==&=> [ 255 ,gC,tmD,&]
| | \ Ermentrude of BURGUNDY (1057? 1105+)
| | \ Stephanie de LONGWY of BARCELONA [alt ped] + ====> [ 255 ,gc,tm,&]
| / | OR: prob. Stephanie of BARCELONA + ==&=> [ 255 ,AC,ptmQY,&]
\ Ermentrude de MONTBELLIARD (1120? 1171?)
\ | or: Gertrude
| / Werner (I; II; Count) of HABSBURG + ====> [ 255 ,gc,tm,&]
| / Otto (Othon) II HAPSBURG (1057? 1111)
| / \ Regulinde (Reginlint) von NELLENBURG + ====> [ 255 ,c,ptm,&]
\ Gertrude HAPSBURG
\ / Rudolf von PFIRT
\ Hilla (Hila) von PFIRT (? by 1076)
http://www.rougemont.be/pages/indexpag.htmlList of the Lords of Rougemont
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Ancient family of importance of Franche-Comté, it will mark his time holding the Office of Viscount of Besançon and giving three archbishops in the same city.
coat of arms of the House of RougemontThe weapons were: of or an Eagle displayed gules, membered, beaked and crowned azure[1].
Summary[hide]
1 Elder branch
2 First branch of the House of Rougemont
3 Second branch of the House of Rougemont
4 Sources
5 Notes and references
Domestic elder[Edit]The oldest Member of this family is Hubald de Rougemont, Viscount of Besançon, cited in a Charter of 1090[1].
Étienne de Rougemont, Rougemont sire, chevalier, vicomte of Besançon, lived at the beginning of the XIIcenturye .
Marriage and succession:
He married Sibille of Thibaud Ier following there.
Thibaud i. of Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont, Viscount of Besançon, founder in 1117 of theAbbey of Marast, cited in 1133 and 1138 in charters of donation to the monks of theAbbey of Cîteaux for abbeys of La Charité (Neuvelle-lès-la-Charité) and Lieu-Croissant.
Marriage and succession:
His wife is unknown, Humbert which follows.
Humbert Ier of Rougemont, Rougemont sire, chevalier, vicomte of Besançon, mentioned in the genealogy of the Archbishop Gérard de Rougemont ("Electus is igitur in Archiepiscopum vir Nobilis Gerardus Sancti Joannis Decanus, filius Theobaldi de Rougemont, filii Humberti, comitis Stephani consobrinus and habuit frattes Humbertum and Theobaldum; Humberti filius Hugo of Aymonis de Falcogneiis, genuit Aymonem modernum filia").
Marriage and succession:
His wife is unknown, it has:
Albéric,
Thibaud II following.
Thibaud II de Rougemont, Rougemont sire, Viscount of Besançon, cited in a gift of the County of Burgundy to the Abbey of Clairefontaine in 1173.
Marriage and succession:
He married Alix, daughter of Theobald II de Traves that there:
Humbert II, following
Taylor III, who was the first branch,
Gérard of Rougemont, (?) -1225), Canon of Besançon,Bishop of Lausane , and Archbishop of Besançon.
Humbert II de Rougemont, Rougemont sire.
Marriage and succession:
His wife is unknown, it was Hugues following.
Hugues de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont.
Marriage and succession:
He married Elizabeth, daughter ofAymon II of Faucogney, of which there Aimon.
First branch of the House of Rougemont[Edit]Thibaud III de Rougemont, Rougemont sire, Viscount of Besançon, in a deal with the religious of flying (Besançon) in 1230. It was as a seal: an eagle with its wings to the Tower reads: Sigillum Theobaldi Vice Comitis Bisuntini. He acknowledged lige man of the County of Burgundy in 1242. In 1243 he exchanged his fief of the Val de Vennes against Uzelles.
Marriage and succession:
He married Alix, daughter of Jean I de Ray, of which it has:
Isabelle, wife of Robert de Choiseul, sire of Traves, son of Renaud III de Choiseul and Alix de Dreux,
Humbert III that follows.
Humbert III de Rougemont, damoiseau, quoted in charters La Charité and la Grâce-Dieu (Besançon) in 1230, 1233 1239.
Marriage and succession:
He married Elvis that there:
Theobald IV, which follows,
Hugues, he married Alix of Ray,
Odo or Eudes, (?-1301), Archbishop of Besançon from 1269 to 1301. Buried before the high altar of theAbbey Notre-Dame de Bellevaux.
Isabelle, she married Jean de La Roche, Lord of La Roche,
Mercy, married Ponce de Chambornay, Knight, of the House of La Roche.
Thibaud IV de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont, vicomte of Besançon, mentioned in a deed of gift in 1251 by the patronage of Granvelle and Maisières churches for theAbbey of charity. In 1286 Otto IV of Burgundy, count of Burgundy, was named referee of an existing conflict between Jean de Montbéliard, sire of Montfaucon, and Thibaud of Belvoir Castle . a year later he was responsible for determining whether the claims of Jean er I of Chalon-Arlay on theAbbey of Balerne were legitimate. He alienated the dignity of Viscount of Besançon in the Lord of Montferrand who transmitted it to Humbert of Clairvaux.
Marriage and succession:
His wife is unknown, it has:
Humbert IV following
Mahaut, Mathee woman, sire of Montmartin,
Elvis, she married Richard Aucelle, Knight,
John, Canon and Treasurer of the Church of Besançon, Archdeacon of Luxeuil and Faverney in 1303. He cultivated in 1334,
Guillaume, Canon of Besançon before 1292, he cultivated in 1333.
Humbert IV of Rougemont, (?) -1331), Knight, Lord of Rougemont, Durnes and Trichatel, buried in the Church of theAbbey Notre-Dame de Bellevaux.
Marriage and succession:
He married Agnes of Durnes, (?-1306), buried in theAbbey of Bellevaux, of which it has:
Thibaud V that follows,
Guillaume who was the second branch,
John Squire, Lord of Durnes and Trichatel in part.
Thibaud V of Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont, Durnes and Trichatel. City with his father in the Act of confederation of the Lords of Champagne, Burgundy and drill in 1314.
Marriage and succession:
He married Jeanne of there:
Guillaume that follows,
Marguerite, (?-1350), wife of Stephen bird, named in a codicil in 1344,
Mabel, she married Guillaume Lord of Montbis, mentioned in a title of theAbbey Saint-Paul of Besançon in 1344.
Guillaume de Rougemont, (?) -1352), Knight, Lord of Rougemont andUsie, buried in theabbaye Notre-Dame de Bellevaux.
Marriage and succession:
He married Marguerite Ray that there:
Humbert V that follows,
Mary, wife of Gautier, sire of Rupt.
Humbert V de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont andUsie. In 1369 he accompanied the Duke of Burgundy, Philippe II of Burgundy, until Flanders. Embroiled in long feuds with David John, who wanted to avenge the death of his cousin that he attributed to him, Humbert and his rival was to go to the judgment of the Duke of Burgundy requiring them on May 2, 1371 thus: "these two Lords and their followers, oublieroient what is was passed;" so if there is any satisfaction Jean Blaisy prisoner vlture a day in the House of the Lord of Ray, what it verseroit to drink to Humbert de Rougemont in the presence of the Duke, that he prieroit to make his friendship and that in the future they vivroient in a mutual intelligence"." He cultivated the 9 December 1406 and chose his burial in theAbbey Notre-Dame de Bellevaux.
Marriage and succession:
He married in 1368 Alix, daughter of Theobald VI Neuchâtel-Burgundy, (?-1414), it also buried at the Abbey, of which he has:
Guillaume that follows,
Taylor,Usie and Luz, Canon of Besançon and Archbishop of Besançon (1405-1429);
Jean, chevalier, seigneur de Bussières andUsie. Knight banneret in 1417. He married first wife Jeanne de Cossonay and his second wife Marguerite de Chauvirey, Lady of Bussières,
Jeanne, called the elder, wife of Jean-Bernard ofAzuel, Knight,.
Margaret, wife of Pierre, Lord of Montmartin, Knight,
N , wife of the Lord of Montureux,.
Jeanne, said the young bride to Thoraise Jean, chevalier, seigneur de Torpes and Lods. She tested at the castle of lods September 12, 1427 and chose his burial at the Priory of Mouthier-Haute-Pierre.
Guillaume de Rougemont, (?) -1382/89), Knight, Lord ofUsie and L'Etoile.
Marriage and succession:
He married Marguerite of Vienne, (-1389), Lady of The star, that it has:
Humbert VI following
Jeanne, married to Montarbey Aymey.
Humbert VI of Rougemont, (?) -1440), hispaniolan and Squire, Lord of Rougemont, Lord ofUsie and L'Etoile in part. Cited in the Act of resumption of fief of John III of Chalon-Arlay in 1410 to the castle of The star.
Marriage and succession:
On 4 may 1418 he married Henriette of Vienna, (?-1452), daughter of the Lord of Neublans. Humbert had not had children his share of the land of Rougemont was in theAsuelHouse, the other half of the fee remained property of the cadet branch of the Rathore.
Second branch of the House of Rougemont[Edit]Guillaume or Guyot de Rougemont, son of Humbert IV de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Russey, Trichatel and Rougemont in part. City in 1332 in the revival of fief of Côtebrune -Côtebrune Pierre by stronghold to Gérard de Montfaucon.
Marriage and succession:
He married Emma's Russey, tested in 1390 , and chose his tomb in the Church of AcceyAbbey , which Jean following there.
Jean de Rougemont, chevalier, seigneur de Russey, Trichatel and Rougemont in part. In 1367 he went, accompanied by four riders, with Duke of Burgundy to serve in his army. at that time it was only Knight-Bachelor's degree.
Marriage and succession:
He married Jeanne of Vienna that there:
Guy that follows,
Marguerite, Mani Ryewoman, Knight,
Charlotte, married for the first time Henry de Rye and Ruppes Gauthier.
Guy de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Russey, Maillot, Mirebel, Montfort, Trichatel and Rougemont in part. It is mentioned in an act of resumption of the Castle and the Russey village in 1395. It was October 5, 1420.
Marriage and succession:
He married Jeanne de Montaigu that there:
Thibaud VI following
Alix, second wife of Pierre de Vergy, Lord of Champvent,
Marguerite, first wife of Guillaume of Étrabonne, Knight, Lord of Étrabonne.
VI Thibaud de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont,Squire-banneret in 1417. It was the fief of Rougemont of his father in 1419.
Marriage and succession:
He married on 3 June 1437 Garcia, daughter of Gérard de Saux Vantoux, of which he has Lord:
Catherine that follows,
Marie, married to Bernard de Chalon, Lord of Brignon and Arcenay.
Lady Catherine de Rougemont, Rougemont, Trichatel and Russey.
Marriage and succession:
She married first married Charles de Mello, and his second wife Jean of Neuchâtel. She drafted her will on 22 September 1499 stating you want to be buried in the monastery of the Cordeliers in Rougemont.
The Rougemonts The Premiere Shroud Family
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Bernard de Tramelay/Dramelay was a Grand Master of the Knight Templars who is said to have died just after he and forty Knight Templars breached the walls of Ascalon during the Crusades. Information on Bernard is very scarce, it suggested his greed got him and the forty Templars killed, as the first to conquer a city got the lion's share of the spoils. There is a suggestion there was a falling out between the Templars and the Christian forces who did not follow Bernard into the breach. When the Muslim defenders saw this, they closed on Bernard who I suspect was trying to capture the Ark of the Covenant that Joseph Flavius said was in Ascalon. The Templars were very keen to own the Ark, and when they first arrived at the temple grounds they began to dig extensively, especially atop the Mount of Olives where they built a substantial fortress. Did they suspect what I have put forth, that the Ark was either the Oracle of Delphi, or kin to this object and the process which allowed great men and women to see their fate? I suspect Absalom was an Oracle, the angel Ariel/Uriel.
For two years now I have been looking at the name Fromond de Dramelay who married a "dame de Rougemont". He is shown in many genealogies (including a Rougemont chart) to be the son of Amedee, the Archbishop of Besancon, which is located fifty miles or so from Rougemont in the Franche-Comte where it is said Bernard was born. His father was named Humbert. All the Humbert names I have found on the net belong to the Ferrette/Rougemont family. Several Rougemonts were the Archbishops of Besancon. The Templars were also in possession of the Shroud of Turin that was given to Amedee by Othen de la Roche (of the small rock). It has been concluded that Bernard de Tramelay is the related to Amedee.
The de la Roche family is kin to the Rougemont and Dramelay family. j. Jean de Montreaux (Montrose) married Marguerite de Rougemont. Jean is a Ferrette who built Montreux castle that is fifty miles from Rougemont. Their daughter Alix married Fromond of Saint-Loup where the Templars are said to have brought their treasure. The Marquis d'Auxelles came to live in the rebuilt castle of Rougemont. Chambrun d'Uxeloup de Rougemont bought Arginy castle and began to look for the lost Templar treasure. The name Uxeloup come from Saint-Loup and Auxelles a castle that was built by the Ferrette family who dwelt in Rougemont castle. Members of the `Arginy Renaissance' are said to be descendants from Knight Templars, even a Grand Master in regards to Guillaume de Beajeau, but, I suspect this group knew who Bernard Tramelay was ..and what he captured at Ascalon?
Marguerite de Saint Loup d'Auxelles married Thibaut 4 of Rougemont. Richard d'Auxelles married Thibaut's daughter, Helvuis, whose grandfather was Humbert. This Humbert appears to be the Archbishop of Besancon, a name that means "house of light". Here is a quote about the Rougemonts and Counts of Champagne who commisioned some of the Grail legends; "By skillful policy, "always acquiring never alienating" the family formed matrimonial alliances with the great families, Montbeliard, Commercy, Chatteauvillian, Geroldseck, Chalon- Auxere, Montague, Ray, Rougemont, Joinville, and Grandson."
Shround of Turin and Knights of Saint-George The Knights of Saint-George met at Rougemont Castle and had a room in a tower in Besancon. The Archbishop of Besancon resided over a ritual there that involved ceratin relics. Was the Shroud of Turnin one of them? "A room in the tower of Montmartin was granted to him by a treaty with the town of Besancon, as well as the exemption of the housing of people of war for the knights residing in Besancon. The knights of Saint-George were besides only noble city of Besancon has to profit from this inappreciable privilege.
"These portraits like that of the prince of COP, special guard of the brotherhood decorated the superb room with the Large Carmelite friars of Besancon, unfortunately destroyed at the time of the Revolution. The plank of the woodworks of the room was decorated series of the blasonnés ecus of the alive knights, with their confined inscriptions of their four districts, which one descended at the time of their death to be carried in ceremony with the church, then suspended with their row in the nave where one saw a great number of it which had decorated a long time the vault with Rougemont." Archbishops of Besancon 1180-1190 : Thierry II de Montfaucon 1191-1193 : Etienne de Vienne 1993-1220 : Amédée de Tramelay 1221-1225 : Gérard de Rougemont
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I am going to make a pilgrimage to this Abbey Bellevaux and own the end of my book. I am looking for backers of my expedition. Who would like to go with?
The Lords of Rougemont and Ferrette also owned Florimont (mountain of flowers) castle where modern day (1785) Knights of Ferrette gathered, and a Raja M built a house dedicated to the troubadours. (1892) Are we looking at the first pseudo-history of the Templars?
Thibaud Rougemont was a co-fpunder of the Priory Marast.
Jon Presco
Copyright 2012
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_seigneurs_de_Rougemont
"This James (or Jacob, for these names were once interchangeable) was the son of Hans Ulrich Rosemond, born 1623, a weaver; who was a son of Hans, a weaver, born 1581; who was a son of Fred Rosemond, born 1552, a weaver, member of town council and a local captain; who was the son of another Hans whose date of birth is not known, but he too, was a weaver and became a citizen of Basle in 1534. His father was Erhart de Rougemont who bought in 1495 ¡°the house called Rebleuten-Zunft in Basle in the Freistrasse"
Friedrich, Seigneur de Rougemont (Rotenberg)1
M, d. after 1267
Friedrich, Seigneur de Rougemont (Rotenberg)|d. a Ulrich II, Duke of Alsace, Lord Florimont, Graf von PfirtkFather Ulrich II, Duke of Alsace, Lord Florimont, Graf von Pfirt1 d. 1 Feb 1275
Mother (Miss) de Belvoir1 d. b 1256
Friedrich, Seigneur de Rougemont (Rotenberg) married Gille de Vienne, daughter of Hugues, Sire de Pagny, Comte de Vienne.1 Friedrich, Seigneur de Rougemont (Rotenberg) died after 1267.1
Family Gille de Vienne
Citations
1.[S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. I/2, Tafel 226.
Gille de Vienne1
The Florimont castral site dominates the village (old town in the medieval sense), at the confluence of the Coeuvatte and the Vendeline. The location is an authentic military site which, according to tradition, would have already been occupied by a garrison to Gallo-Roman times.
The castle is first mentioned in a deed signed by Ulrich II of Ferrette to Blumenberg (Fisher) in 1258. His son Louis also became Lord of the place. February 9, 1309, the lordship including the castle is called into Oblate fief to the Bishop of Basel Otto de grandson by count Thibaut, brother of Louis de Ferrette-Florimont. The Castle has a cited Chapel in 1309 (see Alsatia munita, Bernhard Metz).
Bellevaux, Bella Vallis was founded by Pons i. rock and Etienne de Traves in 1119, he is the first daughter of theAbbey of Morimond and also was the first Cistercian Abbey in Franche-Comté[1].
The birth of the Abbey of Bellevaux coincides with the appearance of the line of likely from La Roche sur Ognon Lords of Lords Scey and Traves. a land area it is made with the help of the Lords of Cirey and Chambornay[1].
The Church was consecrated in 1143 and dedicated to our Lady[1].
The Abbey will depend on four barns in 1139, eight in 1178 (Cirey, Magny, Valleroy, Baslieres, Trevey, Argirey, Champoux and Braillans the last two for a clearing nearby)[1].
Although much lower in importance than the neighboringAbbey of Cherlieu, Bellevaux participates in the swarming of the abbeys as a result of his mother Morimond : from 1124, it contributes to the creation of theLucelle Abbey in the diocese of Basel and then to the diocese of Lausanne, to Montheron (c. 1130)[1]. In its close proximity, it creates Theuley institutions (1130), Rosières (1132) and La Charité (1133). then, the Lords of La Roche became Lords in Attica as a result of the Fourth Crusade, theAbbey of Daphni (sometimes referred to as "Laurum Abbey" in certain acts)[2], in present Greece[1].
At the end of the XIIe century, the Abbey has the chance to get the very important relics: those of Pierre de Tarentaise. Former monk became Archbishop of Tarentaise (1141-1174), he traverses the Burgundy to get to the Pope's support in its fight against the emperor when the death surprised him. Despite the wishes of the canons of Tarentaise, it is buried at Bellevaux, and reputation of holy man and miracle worker, was canonized in 1191[1].
Bellevaux therefore became an important centre of pilgrimage of many nobles in the area while (first among which the Lords of La Roche) and even three archbishops of Besançon (Gérard, Nicolas and Odo de Rougemont are buried in the Abbey Church[1]. After the French Revolution, the relics are transferred to the Church of Cirey.
From thee century XIV, barns are leased and the Abbey invests in the Saltworks of Lons-le-Saunier and Salins. They are building a mansion in Besançon. Workforce down to about 20 monks (18 in 1352 during the visit of the Abbot of Morimond)[1].
The situation is more difficult: the Abbey had six monks in 1497 and it comes to expose the relics of Pierre de Tarentaise exceptionally to attract the alms to repair the Church[1].
The order itself little by little: Jean Rolin, son of the Chancellor Rolin became Abbot in 1455. It is definitive from 1551 and the abbacy of Pierre D'andelot[1].
Fisher: the home of 1892, troubadour style whose principaleest Tower flanked by a stair turret.The lordship married the same story as that of the County of Ferrette and will become "Austrian" in 1324 following the marriage of Jeanne de Ferrette with Albert II of Habsburg. Many noble families rent places to the Austrians. The zum Stein, for example, work at the castle in 1467. In the following decades, the existence of the Chapel, dedicated to saint George, is confirmed.
The Castle, also committed in the Reinach and the Fugger, has work in 1476-1486. In 1577, a fire causes serious damage to the building that once repaired, suffered the outrages soldiers, in 1635 (thirty years war).
After the arrival of the French in the region, the seigneury was handed over to a certain family Baker until 1785, then Ferrette Knights (that have nothing to do with the advantage family of the same name). The strongly ruined castle was not rebuilt.
In its place is built by Raja M. in 1892 a pseudo-medievale home of troubadour style whose Tower main, still visible and flanked by a spiral staircase turret, could occupy the location of the primitive keep. The top of this tower, itself now greatly ruined, was equipped with originally a false crenellated parapet and fake battlements.
Pons de la ROCHE-SUR-OGNON (1080? ?)
/ Eudes (Othon) de la ROCHE-SUR-OGNON (1110? 1161?)
/ \ Sibylle de SCEY
- Pons I de la ROCHE-SUR-OGNON
\ / Richwin (Richuris) (Count) de SCARPONE + ====> [ 255 ,c,ptm,&]
| / Louis II (Sn.) de MONTBELIARD (1020? 1073?)
| / \ Hildegarde (de NORDGAU) von EGISHEIM + ====> [ 255 ,gc,tm,&]
| / Thierry II (Dietrich I) of BAR
| / \ Sophia of BAR (de l' HAUTE LORRAINE) + ==&=> [ 255 ,GC,tm,&]
| / Thierry III (II) de MONTBELLIARD (1085? 1154?)
| | \ / William II (I) `the Great' of BURGUNDY + ==&=> [ 255 ,gC,tmD,&]
| | \ Ermentrude of BURGUNDY (1057? 1105+)
| | \ Stephanie de LONGWY of BARCELONA [alt ped] + ====> [ 255 ,gc,tm,&]
| / | OR: prob. Stephanie of BARCELONA + ==&=> [ 255 ,AC,ptmQY,&]
\ Ermentrude de MONTBELLIARD (1120? 1171?)
\ | or: Gertrude
| / Werner (I; II; Count) of HABSBURG + ====> [ 255 ,gc,tm,&]
| / Otto (Othon) II HAPSBURG (1057? 1111)
| / \ Regulinde (Reginlint) von NELLENBURG + ====> [ 255 ,c,ptm,&]
\ Gertrude HAPSBURG
\ / Rudolf von PFIRT
\ Hilla (Hila) von PFIRT (? by 1076)
http://www.rougemont.be/pages/indexpag.htmlList of the Lords of Rougemont
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Ancient family of importance of Franche-Comté, it will mark his time holding the Office of Viscount of Besançon and giving three archbishops in the same city.
coat of arms of the House of RougemontThe weapons were: of or an Eagle displayed gules, membered, beaked and crowned azure[1].
Summary[hide]
1 Elder branch
2 First branch of the House of Rougemont
3 Second branch of the House of Rougemont
4 Sources
5 Notes and references
Domestic elder[Edit]The oldest Member of this family is Hubald de Rougemont, Viscount of Besançon, cited in a Charter of 1090[1].
Étienne de Rougemont, Rougemont sire, chevalier, vicomte of Besançon, lived at the beginning of the XIIcenturye .
Marriage and succession:
He married Sibille of Thibaud Ier following there.
Thibaud i. of Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont, Viscount of Besançon, founder in 1117 of theAbbey of Marast, cited in 1133 and 1138 in charters of donation to the monks of theAbbey of Cîteaux for abbeys of La Charité (Neuvelle-lès-la-Charité) and Lieu-Croissant.
Marriage and succession:
His wife is unknown, Humbert which follows.
Humbert Ier of Rougemont, Rougemont sire, chevalier, vicomte of Besançon, mentioned in the genealogy of the Archbishop Gérard de Rougemont ("Electus is igitur in Archiepiscopum vir Nobilis Gerardus Sancti Joannis Decanus, filius Theobaldi de Rougemont, filii Humberti, comitis Stephani consobrinus and habuit frattes Humbertum and Theobaldum; Humberti filius Hugo of Aymonis de Falcogneiis, genuit Aymonem modernum filia").
Marriage and succession:
His wife is unknown, it has:
Albéric,
Thibaud II following.
Thibaud II de Rougemont, Rougemont sire, Viscount of Besançon, cited in a gift of the County of Burgundy to the Abbey of Clairefontaine in 1173.
Marriage and succession:
He married Alix, daughter of Theobald II de Traves that there:
Humbert II, following
Taylor III, who was the first branch,
Gérard of Rougemont, (?) -1225), Canon of Besançon,Bishop of Lausane , and Archbishop of Besançon.
Humbert II de Rougemont, Rougemont sire.
Marriage and succession:
His wife is unknown, it was Hugues following.
Hugues de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont.
Marriage and succession:
He married Elizabeth, daughter ofAymon II of Faucogney, of which there Aimon.
First branch of the House of Rougemont[Edit]Thibaud III de Rougemont, Rougemont sire, Viscount of Besançon, in a deal with the religious of flying (Besançon) in 1230. It was as a seal: an eagle with its wings to the Tower reads: Sigillum Theobaldi Vice Comitis Bisuntini. He acknowledged lige man of the County of Burgundy in 1242. In 1243 he exchanged his fief of the Val de Vennes against Uzelles.
Marriage and succession:
He married Alix, daughter of Jean I de Ray, of which it has:
Isabelle, wife of Robert de Choiseul, sire of Traves, son of Renaud III de Choiseul and Alix de Dreux,
Humbert III that follows.
Humbert III de Rougemont, damoiseau, quoted in charters La Charité and la Grâce-Dieu (Besançon) in 1230, 1233 1239.
Marriage and succession:
He married Elvis that there:
Theobald IV, which follows,
Hugues, he married Alix of Ray,
Odo or Eudes, (?-1301), Archbishop of Besançon from 1269 to 1301. Buried before the high altar of theAbbey Notre-Dame de Bellevaux.
Isabelle, she married Jean de La Roche, Lord of La Roche,
Mercy, married Ponce de Chambornay, Knight, of the House of La Roche.
Thibaud IV de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont, vicomte of Besançon, mentioned in a deed of gift in 1251 by the patronage of Granvelle and Maisières churches for theAbbey of charity. In 1286 Otto IV of Burgundy, count of Burgundy, was named referee of an existing conflict between Jean de Montbéliard, sire of Montfaucon, and Thibaud of Belvoir Castle . a year later he was responsible for determining whether the claims of Jean er I of Chalon-Arlay on theAbbey of Balerne were legitimate. He alienated the dignity of Viscount of Besançon in the Lord of Montferrand who transmitted it to Humbert of Clairvaux.
Marriage and succession:
His wife is unknown, it has:
Humbert IV following
Mahaut, Mathee woman, sire of Montmartin,
Elvis, she married Richard Aucelle, Knight,
John, Canon and Treasurer of the Church of Besançon, Archdeacon of Luxeuil and Faverney in 1303. He cultivated in 1334,
Guillaume, Canon of Besançon before 1292, he cultivated in 1333.
Humbert IV of Rougemont, (?) -1331), Knight, Lord of Rougemont, Durnes and Trichatel, buried in the Church of theAbbey Notre-Dame de Bellevaux.
Marriage and succession:
He married Agnes of Durnes, (?-1306), buried in theAbbey of Bellevaux, of which it has:
Thibaud V that follows,
Guillaume who was the second branch,
John Squire, Lord of Durnes and Trichatel in part.
Thibaud V of Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont, Durnes and Trichatel. City with his father in the Act of confederation of the Lords of Champagne, Burgundy and drill in 1314.
Marriage and succession:
He married Jeanne of there:
Guillaume that follows,
Marguerite, (?-1350), wife of Stephen bird, named in a codicil in 1344,
Mabel, she married Guillaume Lord of Montbis, mentioned in a title of theAbbey Saint-Paul of Besançon in 1344.
Guillaume de Rougemont, (?) -1352), Knight, Lord of Rougemont andUsie, buried in theabbaye Notre-Dame de Bellevaux.
Marriage and succession:
He married Marguerite Ray that there:
Humbert V that follows,
Mary, wife of Gautier, sire of Rupt.
Humbert V de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont andUsie. In 1369 he accompanied the Duke of Burgundy, Philippe II of Burgundy, until Flanders. Embroiled in long feuds with David John, who wanted to avenge the death of his cousin that he attributed to him, Humbert and his rival was to go to the judgment of the Duke of Burgundy requiring them on May 2, 1371 thus: "these two Lords and their followers, oublieroient what is was passed;" so if there is any satisfaction Jean Blaisy prisoner vlture a day in the House of the Lord of Ray, what it verseroit to drink to Humbert de Rougemont in the presence of the Duke, that he prieroit to make his friendship and that in the future they vivroient in a mutual intelligence"." He cultivated the 9 December 1406 and chose his burial in theAbbey Notre-Dame de Bellevaux.
Marriage and succession:
He married in 1368 Alix, daughter of Theobald VI Neuchâtel-Burgundy, (?-1414), it also buried at the Abbey, of which he has:
Guillaume that follows,
Taylor,Usie and Luz, Canon of Besançon and Archbishop of Besançon (1405-1429);
Jean, chevalier, seigneur de Bussières andUsie. Knight banneret in 1417. He married first wife Jeanne de Cossonay and his second wife Marguerite de Chauvirey, Lady of Bussières,
Jeanne, called the elder, wife of Jean-Bernard ofAzuel, Knight,.
Margaret, wife of Pierre, Lord of Montmartin, Knight,
N , wife of the Lord of Montureux,.
Jeanne, said the young bride to Thoraise Jean, chevalier, seigneur de Torpes and Lods. She tested at the castle of lods September 12, 1427 and chose his burial at the Priory of Mouthier-Haute-Pierre.
Guillaume de Rougemont, (?) -1382/89), Knight, Lord ofUsie and L'Etoile.
Marriage and succession:
He married Marguerite of Vienne, (-1389), Lady of The star, that it has:
Humbert VI following
Jeanne, married to Montarbey Aymey.
Humbert VI of Rougemont, (?) -1440), hispaniolan and Squire, Lord of Rougemont, Lord ofUsie and L'Etoile in part. Cited in the Act of resumption of fief of John III of Chalon-Arlay in 1410 to the castle of The star.
Marriage and succession:
On 4 may 1418 he married Henriette of Vienna, (?-1452), daughter of the Lord of Neublans. Humbert had not had children his share of the land of Rougemont was in theAsuelHouse, the other half of the fee remained property of the cadet branch of the Rathore.
Second branch of the House of Rougemont[Edit]Guillaume or Guyot de Rougemont, son of Humbert IV de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Russey, Trichatel and Rougemont in part. City in 1332 in the revival of fief of Côtebrune -Côtebrune Pierre by stronghold to Gérard de Montfaucon.
Marriage and succession:
He married Emma's Russey, tested in 1390 , and chose his tomb in the Church of AcceyAbbey , which Jean following there.
Jean de Rougemont, chevalier, seigneur de Russey, Trichatel and Rougemont in part. In 1367 he went, accompanied by four riders, with Duke of Burgundy to serve in his army. at that time it was only Knight-Bachelor's degree.
Marriage and succession:
He married Jeanne of Vienna that there:
Guy that follows,
Marguerite, Mani Ryewoman, Knight,
Charlotte, married for the first time Henry de Rye and Ruppes Gauthier.
Guy de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Russey, Maillot, Mirebel, Montfort, Trichatel and Rougemont in part. It is mentioned in an act of resumption of the Castle and the Russey village in 1395. It was October 5, 1420.
Marriage and succession:
He married Jeanne de Montaigu that there:
Thibaud VI following
Alix, second wife of Pierre de Vergy, Lord of Champvent,
Marguerite, first wife of Guillaume of Étrabonne, Knight, Lord of Étrabonne.
VI Thibaud de Rougemont, Knight, Lord of Rougemont,Squire-banneret in 1417. It was the fief of Rougemont of his father in 1419.
Marriage and succession:
He married on 3 June 1437 Garcia, daughter of Gérard de Saux Vantoux, of which he has Lord:
Catherine that follows,
Marie, married to Bernard de Chalon, Lord of Brignon and Arcenay.
Lady Catherine de Rougemont, Rougemont, Trichatel and Russey.
Marriage and succession:
She married first married Charles de Mello, and his second wife Jean of Neuchâtel. She drafted her will on 22 September 1499 stating you want to be buried in the monastery of the Cordeliers in Rougemont.
The Rougemonts The Premiere Shroud Family
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Bernard de Tramelay/Dramelay was a Grand Master of the Knight Templars who is said to have died just after he and forty Knight Templars breached the walls of Ascalon during the Crusades. Information on Bernard is very scarce, it suggested his greed got him and the forty Templars killed, as the first to conquer a city got the lion's share of the spoils. There is a suggestion there was a falling out between the Templars and the Christian forces who did not follow Bernard into the breach. When the Muslim defenders saw this, they closed on Bernard who I suspect was trying to capture the Ark of the Covenant that Joseph Flavius said was in Ascalon. The Templars were very keen to own the Ark, and when they first arrived at the temple grounds they began to dig extensively, especially atop the Mount of Olives where they built a substantial fortress. Did they suspect what I have put forth, that the Ark was either the Oracle of Delphi, or kin to this object and the process which allowed great men and women to see their fate? I suspect Absalom was an Oracle, the angel Ariel/Uriel.
For two years now I have been looking at the name Fromond de Dramelay who married a "dame de Rougemont". He is shown in many genealogies (including a Rougemont chart) to be the son of Amedee, the Archbishop of Besancon, which is located fifty miles or so from Rougemont in the Franche-Comte where it is said Bernard was born. His father was named Humbert. All the Humbert names I have found on the net belong to the Ferrette/Rougemont family. Several Rougemonts were the Archbishops of Besancon. The Templars were also in possession of the Shroud of Turin that was given to Amedee by Othen de la Roche (of the small rock). It has been concluded that Bernard de Tramelay is the related to Amedee.
The de la Roche family is kin to the Rougemont and Dramelay family. j. Jean de Montreaux (Montrose) married Marguerite de Rougemont. Jean is a Ferrette who built Montreux castle that is fifty miles from Rougemont. Their daughter Alix married Fromond of Saint-Loup where the Templars are said to have brought their treasure. The Marquis d'Auxelles came to live in the rebuilt castle of Rougemont. Chambrun d'Uxeloup de Rougemont bought Arginy castle and began to look for the lost Templar treasure. The name Uxeloup come from Saint-Loup and Auxelles a castle that was built by the Ferrette family who dwelt in Rougemont castle. Members of the `Arginy Renaissance' are said to be descendants from Knight Templars, even a Grand Master in regards to Guillaume de Beajeau, but, I suspect this group knew who Bernard Tramelay was ..and what he captured at Ascalon?
Marguerite de Saint Loup d'Auxelles married Thibaut 4 of Rougemont. Richard d'Auxelles married Thibaut's daughter, Helvuis, whose grandfather was Humbert. This Humbert appears to be the Archbishop of Besancon, a name that means "house of light". Here is a quote about the Rougemonts and Counts of Champagne who commisioned some of the Grail legends; "By skillful policy, "always acquiring never alienating" the family formed matrimonial alliances with the great families, Montbeliard, Commercy, Chatteauvillian, Geroldseck, Chalon- Auxere, Montague, Ray, Rougemont, Joinville, and Grandson."
Shround of Turin and Knights of Saint-George The Knights of Saint-George met at Rougemont Castle and had a room in a tower in Besancon. The Archbishop of Besancon resided over a ritual there that involved ceratin relics. Was the Shroud of Turnin one of them? "A room in the tower of Montmartin was granted to him by a treaty with the town of Besancon, as well as the exemption of the housing of people of war for the knights residing in Besancon. The knights of Saint-George were besides only noble city of Besancon has to profit from this inappreciable privilege.
"These portraits like that of the prince of COP, special guard of the brotherhood decorated the superb room with the Large Carmelite friars of Besancon, unfortunately destroyed at the time of the Revolution. The plank of the woodworks of the room was decorated series of the blasonnés ecus of the alive knights, with their confined inscriptions of their four districts, which one descended at the time of their death to be carried in ceremony with the church, then suspended with their row in the nave where one saw a great number of it which had decorated a long time the vault with Rougemont." Archbishops of Besancon 1180-1190 : Thierry II de Montfaucon 1191-1193 : Etienne de Vienne 1993-1220 : Amédée de Tramelay 1221-1225 : Gérard de Rougemont
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